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		<title>Comment on Quick note on Oracle Java SE Time Zone Updates #tzupdater by DonaldOJDK</title>
		<link>http://openj.dk/2013/06/08/quick-note-on-oracle-java-se-time-zone-updates-tzupdater/#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DonaldOJDK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2013 12:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most recent publicly supported versions will always have some way to keep current.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most recent publicly supported versions will always have some way to keep current.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick note on Oracle Java SE Time Zone Updates #tzupdater by keilw</title>
		<link>http://openj.dk/2013/06/08/quick-note-on-oracle-java-se-time-zone-updates-tzupdater/#comment-894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[keilw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 23:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about Java 8 and the 3 1/2 Date/Time APIs it&#039;s coming with? Are all maintainable by the same TZUpdater or will there be a new tool, hopefully covering ALL of these APIs, not just some of them? (especially java.util.Date/Timezone and the replicated functionality in java.time)

While since Java 7 the Currency class has a more or less documented override mechanism for currency data (e.g. if a country leaves the Euro-zone or enters it before a new JDK comes out;-), some improvement in this area compatible with the Java 7/8 approach seems in the interest of what people both in the community and JCP EC (in Zurich) said, they would like to see for JSR 354 following its EDR. If the i18n team at OpenJDK is open to help and discussion the JSR 354 EG and Spec Lead are more than happy to speak to them about it.

Werner]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Java 8 and the 3 1/2 Date/Time APIs it&#8217;s coming with? Are all maintainable by the same TZUpdater or will there be a new tool, hopefully covering ALL of these APIs, not just some of them? (especially java.util.Date/Timezone and the replicated functionality in java.time)</p>
<p>While since Java 7 the Currency class has a more or less documented override mechanism for currency data (e.g. if a country leaves the Euro-zone or enters it before a new JDK comes out;-), some improvement in this area compatible with the Java 7/8 approach seems in the interest of what people both in the community and JCP EC (in Zurich) said, they would like to see for JSR 354 following its EDR. If the i18n team at OpenJDK is open to help and discussion the JSR 354 EG and Spec Lead are more than happy to speak to them about it.</p>
<p>Werner</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick note on Oracle Java SE Time Zone Updates #tzupdater by Todd Knarr</title>
		<link>http://openj.dk/2013/06/08/quick-note-on-oracle-java-se-time-zone-updates-tzupdater/#comment-889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Knarr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I&#039;d like is a tzupdater tool that I could give the version number of the latest update to and have it download the update from IANA and install it. javazic&#039;s there, and that&#039;s the heart of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;d like is a tzupdater tool that I could give the version number of the latest update to and have it download the update from IANA and install it. javazic&#8217;s there, and that&#8217;s the heart of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick note on Oracle Java SE Time Zone Updates #tzupdater by DonaldOJDK</title>
		<link>http://openj.dk/2013/06/08/quick-note-on-oracle-java-se-time-zone-updates-tzupdater/#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DonaldOJDK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI -- As per Henrik&#039;s blog [1], the TZUpdater tool will be made available, likely by EOB pacific today (June 10, 2013).  Much thanks to all who provided constructive feedback and apologies for any inconvenience.

 - Don

[1] - https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/tzupdater_for_jdk_7_available]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8212; As per Henrik&#8217;s blog [1], the TZUpdater tool will be made available, likely by EOB pacific today (June 10, 2013).  Much thanks to all who provided constructive feedback and apologies for any inconvenience.</p>
<p> &#8211; Don</p>
<p>[1] &#8211; <a href="https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/tzupdater_for_jdk_7_available" rel="nofollow">https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/tzupdater_for_jdk_7_available</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick note on Oracle Java SE Time Zone Updates #tzupdater by DonaldOJDK</title>
		<link>http://openj.dk/2013/06/08/quick-note-on-oracle-java-se-time-zone-updates-tzupdater/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DonaldOJDK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 13:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Stephen, yes - this is exactly what Robert is noting, and as I said I wouldn&#039;t want to minimize that as being obscure, so as I said, there&#039;s some additional information required here and I&#039;ll update the specifics when I can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen, yes &#8211; this is exactly what Robert is noting, and as I said I wouldn&#8217;t want to minimize that as being obscure, so as I said, there&#8217;s some additional information required here and I&#8217;ll update the specifics when I can.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick note on Oracle Java SE Time Zone Updates #tzupdater by scolebourne</title>
		<link>http://openj.dk/2013/06/08/quick-note-on-oracle-java-se-time-zone-updates-tzupdater/#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scolebourne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 12:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about those using JDK7? That isn&#039;t EOL. And users still need to be able to update their time-zone data faster than Oracle releases new updates. (Time-zone rules can be changed with just a few hours notice in some parts of the world). This decision (a) looks cheap and (b) isn&#039;t thought through.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about those using JDK7? That isn&#8217;t EOL. And users still need to be able to update their time-zone data faster than Oracle releases new updates. (Time-zone rules can be changed with just a few hours notice in some parts of the world). This decision (a) looks cheap and (b) isn&#8217;t thought through.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick note on Oracle Java SE Time Zone Updates #tzupdater by Stephen Colebourne</title>
		<link>http://openj.dk/2013/06/08/quick-note-on-oracle-java-se-time-zone-updates-tzupdater/#comment-883</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Colebourne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 12:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not clear that you&#039;ve addressed the issue of someone using JDK7 who needs an immediate time-zone update. Local authorities change their time-zone rules in completely arbitrary ways and on arbitrary schedules. It is far from uncommon for there to be just a few days notice of a time-zone change, and even the TZDB database struggles to release often enough. As such, there is no way that the answer &quot;wait until the next Oracle JDK7 release&quot; is a viable choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not clear that you&#8217;ve addressed the issue of someone using JDK7 who needs an immediate time-zone update. Local authorities change their time-zone rules in completely arbitrary ways and on arbitrary schedules. It is far from uncommon for there to be just a few days notice of a time-zone change, and even the TZDB database struggles to release often enough. As such, there is no way that the answer &#8220;wait until the next Oracle JDK7 release&#8221; is a viable choice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick note on Oracle Java SE Time Zone Updates #tzupdater by DonaldOJDK</title>
		<link>http://openj.dk/2013/06/08/quick-note-on-oracle-java-se-time-zone-updates-tzupdater/#comment-882</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DonaldOJDK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 00:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Robert, thanks for the comment.  Let me look into this and respond with more details later.  Quickly for now - I understand your comment that this happened to you with an early 6u, but there&#039;s some assumptions around future updates that have changed and I don&#039;t believe this will be a significant issue hereon -- but let me get back to you when I can with specifics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert, thanks for the comment.  Let me look into this and respond with more details later.  Quickly for now &#8211; I understand your comment that this happened to you with an early 6u, but there&#8217;s some assumptions around future updates that have changed and I don&#8217;t believe this will be a significant issue hereon &#8212; but let me get back to you when I can with specifics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick note on Oracle Java SE Time Zone Updates #tzupdater by Robert</title>
		<link>http://openj.dk/2013/06/08/quick-note-on-oracle-java-se-time-zone-updates-tzupdater/#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 22:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is probable some missunderstanding here, Sometimes you can&#039;t wait until the next update to receive the new timezone database. When my country, Venezuela, had a timezone change, Sun at that time did exactly what is happening now, the updater was only for support contracts and the next update was very far away from the tz change date. I resorted to compile my own database from sources because Sun left an entire country without the update when needed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is probable some missunderstanding here, Sometimes you can&#8217;t wait until the next update to receive the new timezone database. When my country, Venezuela, had a timezone change, Sun at that time did exactly what is happening now, the updater was only for support contracts and the next update was very far away from the tz change date. I resorted to compile my own database from sources because Sun left an entire country without the update when needed</p>
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		<title>Comment on Update to Code Signing Note on OTN by mihi42</title>
		<link>http://openj.dk/2013/04/20/update-to-code-signing-note-on-otn/#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mihi42]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 18:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the record, CERT/CC seems to have the exactly same concerns:

http://www.cert.org/blogs/certcc/2013/04/dont_sign_that_applet.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, CERT/CC seems to have the exactly same concerns:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cert.org/blogs/certcc/2013/04/dont_sign_that_applet.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cert.org/blogs/certcc/2013/04/dont_sign_that_applet.html</a></p>
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